about to build a pc

dustda18 · 10-12-2004, 02:50 PM

SONY DW-D18A DUAL Layer 8x +/-DVDR drives bare drives $74.10
1 AS04P4R800-VM **ASUS P4R800-VM ATI9100 P4-800 4DDR/VGA/8X/LAN/M-ATX $87.30
1 IN36P4PG2400DR INTEL P4 2.4GHz 512K 800FSB HT Skt-478 Retail PG2400D $159.05
1 SE07S3160023AS SEAGATE ST3160023AS 160GB, SERIAL ATA, 7200RPM 8MB cache $110.80
1 AT10027-7T1 ATI Radeon 9600XT 128MBDDR 8XAGP TVOUT/DVI (FULL RETAIL) $189.00
1 CE34SB0350A Creative Labs Sound Blaster Auidgy2 ZS 7.1 Ch. Bulk SB0350 $95.80
1 DM41B512-AP Apacer 512MB DDR400 PC3200 Major Brand Memory Module $91.80
Sub Total

this is what im ordering so far, is this good. i have little over 1000 i can spend.

RipperRoo · 10-12-2004, 03:58 PM

Looking good so far

what type of case are you planning on, highly modded / white box or something in between?

dustda18 · 10-12-2004, 11:30 PM

not really sure. what do you think i should do. i dont really know

RipperRoo · 10-13-2004, 01:52 AM

I have always said - when it comes to a case 'the bigger the better' more room inside = better airflow & better cooling, plus its easyer to work on.

my personal fav is the soho patern file server case, several manufacturers make them (chieftec/antec/thermaltake) if your after highly modded go with thermaltake, if you want a range of case colours Chieftec is your man, and if you want plain but with a real good psu, Antec

Pasty901 · 10-13-2004, 02:38 AM

http://www.xcase.co.uk/

Heres a good case site and i whole heartedly agree with Rip here on the bigger the better - my server is a soho pattern case by antec - best case ive ever worked with and their psu equally excellent

dustda18 · 10-13-2004, 09:01 PM

i dont know much about computers but does each item have to support each other item, like will my motherboard support my graphics card and all that?

technobeast · 10-14-2004, 12:35 AM

Yup there is some kind of dependency between all parts. But the things that need to have 100% connectivity are the MB and the CPU.
Other dependencies:
HDD: Serial ATA drive will work with a specific MB only if the MB has Serial ATA connectors. That is of course if you don't buy a separate SATA controller.
Videocards: still AGP sloted are popular (that is where I live) and PCIex is the future standard - it is already available, but not enough popular. The Radeon you chose is available in AGP type only so there will be no problems I think.
What I would recommend is changing (just my 2c) the mobo and CPU. A AMD Athlon XP Barton with a good mobo will be better. But again it will depend on what you'll do with the PC - games, office apps, graphics artist, ......

dustda18 · 10-14-2004, 07:42 PM

what kind of mobo and cpu would you recommend. it will be used mostly for music, dvds, games, etc...

dustda18 · 10-14-2004, 07:57 PM

i just read to use the new athlon 64s for mobo & cpu. would that be a good choice

dustda18 · 10-14-2004, 08:30 PM

what about these chioces

80699-R
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Processor Socket 754 Retail *** Free 2nd Day ***
Remove $162.00 $162.00

240411
Asus K8N-E DELUXE nForce3 250Gb Athlon 64 Skt754 DDR ATX Motherboard w/Audio, Gigabit LAN, RAID/Serial ATA Retail ***Free 2nd Day***
Remove $134.99 $134.99

101559
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST3160827AS 160GB Serial ATA 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer ***Free 2nd Day***
Remove $114.00 $114.00

324034
Abit RX600 Pro-PCIE Radeon X600 Pro PCI Express 256MB DDR Video Card w/TV-Out & DVI Retail ***Free 2nd Day***
Remove $159.00 $159.00

290223
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Sound Card Retail *** Free 2nd Day ***
Remove

technobeast · 10-15-2004, 12:38 AM

Looks good. For a motherboard you can choose either this ASUS or Abit KV8Pro (VIA K8T800 chipset) or EPoX 8KDA3+ (nForce 3 250 chipset). All OK and depends on what you like (in this case only). From the many tests I've read, the ABIT KV8Pro is a little bit better from the other two, but all tests mention that the advantages will be felt by enthusiasts a.k.a. overclockers. So for a calm non-o/c work choose any of the three buy and voila.

Cheers

dustda18 · 10-21-2004, 05:37 PM

put together pc, few changes
western digital 160gb hard drive
ati radeon 9550

everything gets power, fans, harddrive, led lights, but no video on the monitor. please help, ive spent 1100 on something that doesnt work. no beeps nothing

fireydeviant · 10-21-2004, 07:34 PM

check video cable. check monitor power. check that the card is in the slot all the way, make sure that if the card has a power connector, that it is plugged in. check that the AGP slot type is the same as the card, ie. 8x car = 8x slot. the ATI radeon 9550 is AGP 8x, and so is your motherboard. make sure the pins on the video connector are ok.

dustda18 · 10-21-2004, 07:44 PM

i have checked everything, should i just take it back and get a new one. the fan is coming on, on the card also, i just dont know what to do

fireydeviant · 10-21-2004, 07:53 PM

huh. do you have another mobo or a friends mobo you could test the card in? If not i recommend taking it back

though you should make sure which component it is, or take both back.

10-12-2004, 02:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
dustda18 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 15	about to build a pc SONY DW-D18A DUAL Layer 8x +/-DVDR drives bare drives $74.10 1 AS04P4R800-VM **ASUS P4R800-VM ATI9100 P4-800 4DDR/VGA/8X/LAN/M-ATX $87.30 1 IN36P4PG2400DR INTEL P4 2.4GHz 512K 800FSB HT Skt-478 Retail PG2400D $159.05 1 SE07S3160023AS SEAGATE ST3160023AS 160GB, SERIAL ATA, 7200RPM 8MB cache $110.80 1 AT10027-7T1 ATI Radeon 9600XT 128MBDDR 8XAGP TVOUT/DVI (FULL RETAIL) $189.00 1 CE34SB0350A Creative Labs Sound Blaster Auidgy2 ZS 7.1 Ch. Bulk SB0350 $95.80 1 DM41B512-AP Apacer 512MB DDR400 PC3200 Major Brand Memory Module $91.80 Sub Total this is what im ordering so far, is this good. i have little over 1000 i can spend.

10-12-2004, 03:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
RipperRoo AdMiN oF RoCk! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: uk Posts: 2,080	Looking good so far what type of case are you planning on, highly modded / white box or something in between? __________________ PcTechtalk.com Admin A7V8X xp2600 Barton SLK 97U, GeForce FX 5700, 1GB 2700DDR Ram Sony DVD -R/+R/RW, SB Live 5.1 Digital, 1 x 30gb 3 x 200GB 2x120GB 1 x 250GB HDD'S, 19" TFT Epson R265 HP NX6125 Laptop 1gb memory http://www.minotaur-computers.co.uk/

10-13-2004, 02:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pasty901 News Writer! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 785	http://www.xcase.co.uk/ Heres a good case site and i whole heartedly agree with Rip here on the bigger the better - my server is a soho pattern case by antec - best case ive ever worked with and their psu equally excellent __________________ "The hardest thing in this world is to live in it."

10-14-2004, 12:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
technobeast The Grim Reaper! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 2,387	Yup there is some kind of dependency between all parts. But the things that need to have 100% connectivity are the MB and the CPU. Other dependencies: HDD: Serial ATA drive will work with a specific MB only if the MB has Serial ATA connectors. That is of course if you don't buy a separate SATA controller. Videocards: still AGP sloted are popular (that is where I live) and PCIex is the future standard - it is already available, but not enough popular. The Radeon you chose is available in AGP type only so there will be no problems I think. What I would recommend is changing (just my 2c) the mobo and CPU. A AMD Athlon XP Barton with a good mobo will be better. But again it will depend on what you'll do with the PC - games, office apps, graphics artist, ...... __________________ Liked this post and found it helpful? Click on the image under my avatar to add to my reputation

10-15-2004, 12:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
technobeast The Grim Reaper! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 2,387	Looks good. For a motherboard you can choose either this ASUS or Abit KV8Pro (VIA K8T800 chipset) or EPoX 8KDA3+ (nForce 3 250 chipset). All OK and depends on what you like (in this case only). From the many tests I've read, the ABIT KV8Pro is a little bit better from the other two, but all tests mention that the advantages will be felt by enthusiasts a.k.a. overclockers. So for a calm non-o/c work choose any of the three buy and voila. Cheers __________________ Liked this post and found it helpful? Click on the image under my avatar to add to my reputation

10-12-2004, 11:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
dustda18 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 15	not really sure. what do you think i should do. i dont really know

10-13-2004, 01:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
RipperRoo AdMiN oF RoCk! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: uk Posts: 2,080	I have always said - when it comes to a case 'the bigger the better' more room inside = better airflow & better cooling, plus its easyer to work on. my personal fav is the soho patern file server case, several manufacturers make them (chieftec/antec/thermaltake) if your after highly modded go with thermaltake, if you want a range of case colours Chieftec is your man, and if you want plain but with a real good psu, Antec

10-13-2004, 09:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
dustda18 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 15	i dont know much about computers but does each item have to support each other item, like will my motherboard support my graphics card and all that?

10-14-2004, 07:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
dustda18 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 15	what kind of mobo and cpu would you recommend. it will be used mostly for music, dvds, games, etc...

10-14-2004, 07:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
dustda18 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 15	i just read to use the new athlon 64s for mobo & cpu. would that be a good choice

10-14-2004, 08:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
dustda18 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 15	what about these chioces 80699-R AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Processor Socket 754 Retail * Free 2nd Day * Remove $162.00 $162.00 240411 Asus K8N-E DELUXE nForce3 250Gb Athlon 64 Skt754 DDR ATX Motherboard w/Audio, Gigabit LAN, RAID/Serial ATA Retail *Free 2nd Day* Remove $134.99 $134.99 101559 Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST3160827AS 160GB Serial ATA 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer *Free 2nd Day* Remove $114.00 $114.00 324034 Abit RX600 Pro-PCIE Radeon X600 Pro PCI Express 256MB DDR Video Card w/TV-Out & DVI Retail *Free 2nd Day* Remove $159.00 $159.00 290223 Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Sound Card Retail * Free 2nd Day * Remove

10-21-2004, 05:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
dustda18 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 15	put together pc, few changes western digital 160gb hard drive ati radeon 9550 everything gets power, fans, harddrive, led lights, but no video on the monitor. please help, ive spent 1100 on something that doesnt work. no beeps nothing

10-21-2004, 07:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
fireydeviant inspired to dream Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 341	check video cable. check monitor power. check that the card is in the slot all the way, make sure that if the card has a power connector, that it is plugged in. check that the AGP slot type is the same as the card, ie. 8x car = 8x slot. the ATI radeon 9550 is AGP 8x, and so is your motherboard. make sure the pins on the video connector are ok. __________________

10-21-2004, 07:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
dustda18 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 15	i have checked everything, should i just take it back and get a new one. the fan is coming on, on the card also, i just dont know what to do

10-21-2004, 07:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
fireydeviant inspired to dream Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 341	huh. do you have another mobo or a friends mobo you could test the card in? If not i recommend taking it back though you should make sure which component it is, or take both back. __________________

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