Running two firewalls?

lordpake · 05-31-2003, 06:12 AM

Just out of curiousity

, can I run multiple firewalls same time ie getting "double" security? I'm now using Sygate Personal Pro and was considering something like Outpost Personal Pro 2 or BlackICE Defender v3.5 to add something in my shielding. And no! ZA is not an oPtion

Anyone has any experiences about using fw-combos?

Lion7718 · 05-31-2003, 06:21 AM

It is not a good idea to run 2 Firewalls at the sametime, from what I have read anyway...it will cause some conflicts & use alot of resources. It has been said not to even have 2 Firewalls installed...but I have ZA & Sygate installed...I run ZA all the time, than shut it down about 2-3 weeks & run Sygate for a day or two...to keep it updated to my system.

Wobbel · 05-31-2003, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lordpake
And no! ZA is not an oPtion

What's wrong with ZA ? if i may ask.
I've been using ZA pro for quite a while now,no problems so far,blocks everything,closes every port i want to be closed.
Just curious

lordpake · 05-31-2003, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wobbel
What's wrong with ZA ? if i may ask.
I've been using ZA pro for quite a while now,no problems so far,blocks everything,closes every port i want to be closed.
Just curious

It f***ed up my system BIG time! Had to reboot in Safe Mode and uninstall it 'coz every time I tried booting after ZA install I got this message that Windows was being shut down to avoid hardware damage!

It is hard to use a fw if your OS doesn't even launch

Besides it effectively cleared my uninstall menu from programs, they are still installed, I just can't uninstall them properly

And note: I wasn't using any other fw's at that time...

**greffov** · 05-31-2003, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lordpake
It is hard to use a fw if your OS doesn't even launch

Actually, this is one of the best ways to secure your machine. LOL. You won't be affected by anything except the OS itself.

By the way: it is a wrong thing to think that 2 firewalls double your shields. It probably only gives trouble.

Besides of that, what do you want exactly? A firewall or a policy manager? The last one for instance checks whether application A may connect 1) at all 2) to a specified host 3) on a given port 4) etc. Another example is that it checks whether application B is allowed to open a port and listen to in on your computer, thus 1) opening port x 2) accepting connections from a specified host 3) etc.

A firewall only drops, rejects, forwards, masquerades and allows packages. This has nothing to do with applications, but pure with source and destinationaddress of your IP packages.

lordpake · 05-31-2003, 09:49 AM

Firewall + policy manager in one package, please

Ok, so it's not worth it to use two fw's.

Fister · 05-31-2003, 12:27 PM

Uh, well actually there are two types of firewalls you can use at the same time

1) hardware firewall + software firewall

2) 1 regular firewall+ 1 firewall that only keeps things "in" unless you let them access the internet...

lordpake · 05-31-2003, 01:21 PM

Yo Fister, can you supply little more info on that option number 2?

orb36O · 05-31-2003, 02:08 PM

Tiny Personal Firewall, free for personal use... VERY SECURE!

technobeast · 05-31-2003, 03:27 PM

BlackIce can be used as an addition to any firewall I think. It's not a firewall but a kind of filter. I'll try to find the article for this.

Dude-sweet · 06-01-2003, 03:20 PM

I run sygate and xp firewall at the same time.
the only prob i had with ZA is it wasnt very good 4 networked computers.

Fister · 06-01-2003, 04:34 PM

http://www.webattack.com/get/outpostpro.shtml

above is a description of a firewall with anti-leak protection...

Fister · 06-01-2003, 04:37 PM

sorry to double up lord pake, but here is another article on anti-leak or leak proof firewalls....

It keeps all the good stuff in...

http://www.pcflank.com/art24.htm

lordpake · 06-01-2003, 04:50 PM

No prob, Fister!

Thanks for the info and linkx, a little something to keep me busy for a while

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Lion7718 Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 2,317	It is not a good idea to run 2 Firewalls at the sametime, from what I have read anyway...it will cause some conflicts & use alot of resources. It has been said not to even have 2 Firewalls installed...but I have ZA & Sygate installed...I run ZA all the time, than shut it down about 2-3 weeks & run Sygate for a day or two...to keep it updated to my system. __________________ "Protect me from my friends, I can take care of my enemies" You better not be touching my mannequin

05-31-2003, 09:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
lordpake Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 150	Firewall + policy manager in one package, please Ok, so it's not worth it to use two fw's. __________________ "Sharing is Caring." "Judge not the others by their post count, for it means absolutely nothing!"

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Fister h3\|P \| 4m 5tUcK Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UVic Posts: 1,899	Uh, well actually there are two types of firewalls you can use at the same time 1) hardware firewall + software firewall 2) 1 regular firewall+ 1 firewall that only keeps things "in" unless you let them access the internet... __________________

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lordpake Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 150	Yo Fister, can you supply little more info on that option number 2? __________________ "Sharing is Caring." "Judge not the others by their post count, for it means absolutely nothing!"

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05-31-2003, 03:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
technobeast The Grim Reaper! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 2,387	BlackIce can be used as an addition to any firewall I think. It's not a firewall but a kind of filter. I'll try to find the article for this. __________________ Liked this post and found it helpful? Click on the image under my avatar to add to my reputation

06-01-2003, 03:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dude-sweet Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 64	I run sygate and xp firewall at the same time. the only prob i had with ZA is it wasnt very good 4 networked computers. __________________ I have not failed I have just found 1,000 ways that don't work

06-01-2003, 04:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
Fister h3\|P \| 4m 5tUcK Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UVic Posts: 1,899	http://www.webattack.com/get/outpostpro.shtml above is a description of a firewall with anti-leak protection... __________________

06-01-2003, 04:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
Fister h3\|P \| 4m 5tUcK Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UVic Posts: 1,899	sorry to double up lord pake, but here is another article on anti-leak or leak proof firewalls.... It keeps all the good stuff in... http://www.pcflank.com/art24.htm __________________

06-01-2003, 04:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
lordpake Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 150	No prob, Fister! Thanks for the info and linkx, a little something to keep me busy for a while __________________ "Sharing is Caring." "Judge not the others by their post count, for it means absolutely nothing!"

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