Old computer won't run

Jack39 · 10-26-2004, 03:32 PM

I'm trying to resurrect an old computer,SE440BX MB, that was operational until I attempted to install an additional HD. It stopped running. I've disconnected everything except for the fan and the HD. When I apply power, the fan runs for about one second and stops. When the HD was connected, it would not operate either. I'm illiterate with respect to inside-the-case stuff (never built a computer, but I did install a CD-RW that worked). I would appreciate help.

Thanks,

Jack

JamesT · 10-26-2004, 04:10 PM

Might of blew the power supply. Im not an expert but my old PC turned on for about a second, started to spin up and then died. Whats the specs?

Jack39 · 10-26-2004, 05:13 PM

Thanks for responding to my post. I'm sorry, but what do you mean by "whats the specs?"

Thanks,

Jack

RipperRoo · 10-26-2004, 05:41 PM

full specifications of the system, model of motherboard type of power supply (AT/ATX) graphics card ect - this info can often help us track down problems faster as we can search this site and others for similar problems with the same board/componants and also we are able to get the pdf manuals for your motherboad providing indepth information.

no beeps no screen, no hard drive noise, i think JamesT could be correct when he mentions a possible blown power supply, do you have (or know anyone who has )another power supply you can test the system with, or another system you can test the power supply on?

Jack39 · 10-26-2004, 07:16 PM

OK, thanks and will get the specs together.

Jack39 · 10-27-2004, 02:54 PM

SPECS: ATX form factor, SystemBoard SE440BX2 PII 400 MT, power supply Lead Year Ent. Co., LTD, Tiger Power Model TG-2006D, 200 Watts, HD IBM model DTTA-350840 8.4 GB, 400 MHz P II processor, 512K L2 cache, 384 SDRAM, controller card Ultra ATA-33 hard drive controller, video card Diamond Viper 550 16 MB SDRAM AGP2X, sound card 128 voice PCI wavetable

I hope this is close to the specs that are necessary, but if not, I will revise as necessary. The Hd that I attempted to is a IBM DTTA 12.9 G

I can get the power supply tested if necessary.

Jack

JamesT · 10-28-2004, 02:47 AM

If you can get or borrow a different power supply with a higher watt, try that and see if it boots.

Pasty901 · 10-28-2004, 03:34 AM

Well if it seems to have life but then dies again i would be tempted to say the psu is ok, if you had just built the pc i wud say it was shorting, but what i think could have happened is u underpowered the pc, by adding another hdd the power supply was stretched too thinly and may as a consequence damaged the board or cpu...a friend of mine did exactly the same, he ended up replacing board, psu and cpu.

Definately worth getting hold of a new psu to try if it doesnt help try each of the components in turn to establish which one (if not more) have gone

Jack39 · 11-05-2004, 10:15 AM

I tested the power supply with an Antec power supply tester and it tested OK. Is there a way to test the system board?

Thanks,

Jack

Pantharen · 11-29-2004, 01:09 AM

You fried your motherboard, prolly not the cpu, but the board itself is toast. I'm betting on a power capacitor. P2 & P3 motherboard were built with a mess load of faulty capacitors.
Basically what is happening is the power is flowing to the capacitor and as soon as it has a load put to it, then it shorts out. If you continue to mess with it, it'll eventually explode and then you'll have a hell of a mess.

technobeast · 11-29-2004, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pantharen

Basically what is happening is the power is flowing to the capacitor and as soon as it has a load put to it, then it shorts out. If you continue to mess with it, it'll eventually explode and then you'll have a hell of a mess.

Another possible option is for the electrolyte fluid to dry and basically the capacitor to stop working as one

10-26-2004, 03:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jack39 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5	Old computer won't run I'm trying to resurrect an old computer,SE440BX MB, that was operational until I attempted to install an additional HD. It stopped running. I've disconnected everything except for the fan and the HD. When I apply power, the fan runs for about one second and stops. When the HD was connected, it would not operate either. I'm illiterate with respect to inside-the-case stuff (never built a computer, but I did install a CD-RW that worked). I would appreciate help. Thanks, Jack

10-26-2004, 04:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
JamesT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 186	Might of blew the power supply. Im not an expert but my old PC turned on for about a second, started to spin up and then died. Whats the specs? __________________ RIG 1 AMD Athlon XP3000+ PC Chips M848ALU Crucial DDR 512MB PC2700 160GB Seagate HD ATI Radeon 9600 Atlantis 128MB

10-26-2004, 05:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
RipperRoo AdMiN oF RoCk! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: uk Posts: 2,080	full specifications of the system, model of motherboard type of power supply (AT/ATX) graphics card ect - this info can often help us track down problems faster as we can search this site and others for similar problems with the same board/componants and also we are able to get the pdf manuals for your motherboad providing indepth information. no beeps no screen, no hard drive noise, i think JamesT could be correct when he mentions a possible blown power supply, do you have (or know anyone who has )another power supply you can test the system with, or another system you can test the power supply on? __________________ PcTechtalk.com Admin A7V8X xp2600 Barton SLK 97U, GeForce FX 5700, 1GB 2700DDR Ram Sony DVD -R/+R/RW, SB Live 5.1 Digital, 1 x 30gb 3 x 200GB 2x120GB 1 x 250GB HDD'S, 19" TFT Epson R265 HP NX6125 Laptop 1gb memory http://www.minotaur-computers.co.uk/

10-28-2004, 02:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
JamesT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 186	If you can get or borrow a different power supply with a higher watt, try that and see if it boots. __________________ RIG 1 AMD Athlon XP3000+ PC Chips M848ALU Crucial DDR 512MB PC2700 160GB Seagate HD ATI Radeon 9600 Atlantis 128MB

10-28-2004, 03:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
Pasty901 News Writer! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 785	Well if it seems to have life but then dies again i would be tempted to say the psu is ok, if you had just built the pc i wud say it was shorting, but what i think could have happened is u underpowered the pc, by adding another hdd the power supply was stretched too thinly and may as a consequence damaged the board or cpu...a friend of mine did exactly the same, he ended up replacing board, psu and cpu. Definately worth getting hold of a new psu to try if it doesnt help try each of the components in turn to establish which one (if not more) have gone __________________ "The hardest thing in this world is to live in it."

10-26-2004, 05:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jack39 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5	Thanks for responding to my post. I'm sorry, but what do you mean by "whats the specs?" Thanks, Jack

10-26-2004, 07:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jack39 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5	OK, thanks and will get the specs together.

10-27-2004, 02:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jack39 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5	SPECS: ATX form factor, SystemBoard SE440BX2 PII 400 MT, power supply Lead Year Ent. Co., LTD, Tiger Power Model TG-2006D, 200 Watts, HD IBM model DTTA-350840 8.4 GB, 400 MHz P II processor, 512K L2 cache, 384 SDRAM, controller card Ultra ATA-33 hard drive controller, video card Diamond Viper 550 16 MB SDRAM AGP2X, sound card 128 voice PCI wavetable I hope this is close to the specs that are necessary, but if not, I will revise as necessary. The Hd that I attempted to is a IBM DTTA 12.9 G I can get the power supply tested if necessary. Jack

11-05-2004, 10:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jack39 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5	I tested the power supply with an Antec power supply tester and it tested OK. Is there a way to test the system board? Thanks, Jack

11-29-2004, 01:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Pantharen Santa Claus is DEAD! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Wet Side of Canada. EH! Posts: 78	You fried your motherboard, prolly not the cpu, but the board itself is toast. I'm betting on a power capacitor. P2 & P3 motherboard were built with a mess load of faulty capacitors. Basically what is happening is the power is flowing to the capacitor and as soon as it has a load put to it, then it shorts out. If you continue to mess with it, it'll eventually explode and then you'll have a hell of a mess. __________________

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