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Old 02-03-2004, 12:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Okie first time building one Need opinions

Ok I have done some figuring and i am going to post a word.dc that i have made with the prices and a link to the site with the product. If you experience PC builders make sure I am got everything straight or recommend something cheaper and just as same quality go for it. I just want to make sure I will have a good system that will last me for a good while!! Everything came from pricegrabber.com so hopefully this will be this best deal.

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Just what some feedback before i go gun ho and start ordering stuff and find out i could have gotten away with something just as good for less. Thanks!!!!!!

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Old 02-03-2004, 07:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i wouls shop around on the internet to see what you really want you can always find good deals out there. I use newegg to get a lot of stuff!
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Old 02-03-2004, 07:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks like a pretty solid pc. Only a couple of things i would change.

1. The speakers. I've never had any expereince with Creative speakers, i've heard they're pretty good, but i can't help but recommend these Logitech ones for almost the same price. I and everyone else i know who has them loves them, they put out awesome sound for the money.

The other thing you may want to get is a better Heatsink/fan for the cpu. For most people, the stock AMD HS/Fan doesnt work very well. It works, but it usually doesnt keep the cpu very cool. And if you ever plan on overclocking, you'll definitely need something better. I always recommend thermalright heatsinks for AMD cpu's, they seem to give the coolest temps for most. Then you can stick a big quiet fan on it too, like a Panasonic Panaflo 92mm if you get a thermalright slk900-a, or a 80mm on some of the other models.

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i wouls shop around on the internet to see what you really want you can always find good deals out there. I use newegg to get a lot of stuff!
Have to agree with ya there, Newegg has a lot of great deals, usually with very cheap fedex or free fedex shipping.
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Old 02-04-2004, 04:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Looks a good selection, i have the Creative 5100 speaker set,very pleasing! And with the audigy they will sound really gud!

Just a reminder, with that board you will need to flash the bios to get it to recoginse your chip, I would also say take a look at some crucial ram, had kingston for a while but always go back to crucial, cant beat it

Aso ive been reading that the asus boards seem to have a problem with the maxtor sata drives you may want to read here before you buy. I have a friend who has the same board as you specify and runs a seagate sata with no problems whatsoever. Anyway on the whole a nice pc!
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Old 02-04-2004, 06:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Something else. I don't know if you really need the Audigy 2. The built-in sound system of the Deluxe version is pretty good, SoundStorm is giving me excellent results (it's 5.1 but I just use the 2 speakers of my HiFi). You can always add the sound card later if you want. Make sure that you get a v2.0 PCB, the previous version should be all right but they are not guaranteed to run at 200 MHz FSB.

Jabaman is right, the bundled HS/fan is usually aluminium, it's better to go for a copper HS with a 80mm fan. And it's also a good idea to get a HS for the southbridge, I always recommend this for users of the Asus A7N8X Dlx.
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Old 02-04-2004, 10:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks guys, i really needed some input hehe. I am having a problem desiding what video card. I was thinking about this one and started thinking about it after i palced the order of course And found this one for the same price. What would u all recomend, ahh this all getting to me hehe

or spend a lil more and get this]one


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Old 02-05-2004, 12:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
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BTW whats the diffrence between the seagate sata and the IDE?
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Old 02-05-2004, 01:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks guys, i really needed some input hehe. I am having a problem desiding what video card.
The first one that you choose (PNY) is the Ultra version which is clocked faster (so it's also more expensive). Unless the budget is tight I would get it .

Serial ATA is newer, uses a narrow wire for data (as well as a new connector for power); parallel ATA uses the 80 wire cable. The main advantage of S-ATA is its easier cabling, specially on tight cases (like small form factor).
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Old 02-05-2004, 04:00 AM   #9 (permalink)
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. And it's also a good idea to get a HS for the southbridge, I always recommend this for users of the Asus A7N8X Dlx.

What is the southbridge?
Also Flash the bios so it can recognize the chip. Well the manuals have this info?

Wow think i bit off more than i can chew. Alot more involved than i thought. But i think this will be a good learning experience for me though. Is there somewhere on the net that has steps on putting a pc together? And stuff i should know?

Or just be patient and read the manuals and take my time?

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I always find these to guides helpful....

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20020904/index.html
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http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20020918/index.html
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What is the southbridge?
It's the chip that handles Input/Output (Sound, IDE, USB...). In this motherboard it can get very hot. It's not 100% necessary to put a heatsink; if you don't want to overclock, the case you have chosen provides excellent airflow, you can skip it.

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Also Flash the bios so it can recognize the chip. Well the manuals have this info?
I didn't read it so I can't tell you . It's not that difficult, you just have to download the correct file for your motherboard and version, save on a floppy, and at boot you press F2 (if I'm not wrong) to flash the BIOS. If this is the first time, maybe you can use some help, a friend who has more experience or something.

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Wow think i bit off more than i can chew. Alot more involved than i thought. But i think this will be a good learning experience for me though.
Well if it's the first time that you assamble a computer, it can be complicated. So take your time, don't try to build it in a day. If you're not sure of something, you better don't try, it's better to ask, you can damage expensive components. Double check everything, specially the placement of the heatsink over the CPU. Oh, and try to assemble in a place where you have enough room to move yourself .

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Is there somewhere on the net that has steps on putting a pc together? And stuff i should know?
Or just be patient and read the manuals and take my time?
The manual will help you a bit, but not with everything. You can come back here if you don't know something (or any other time that you just want to hang around here, 'course ).
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Old 02-05-2004, 02:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks for everything, when everything gets in i am sure you all will here from me again hehe
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Everyone here helped me a ton when i built my first computer!
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:26 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Ok whats the diffrence between this to memory?

Crucial 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 16T - OEM

Crucial 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 8T - OEM
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Old 02-06-2004, 06:44 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The only difference seems to be the voltage, 2.5v vs 2.6v. I don't know if this is important, if I'm not wrong you can use any of them on the A7AN8X Dlx.
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