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Old 08-27-2003, 06:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Asus a7n8x deluxe Blue screens??

I keep getting these Blue Screens when I am online! I don't have the time to write down the info as it just flashes on the screen and is gone! It only seems to happen when I am online! Could it be the dual channel memory?? Any Ideas???
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Old 08-27-2003, 09:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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By itself, that is not enough info to tell anything.

What does your event viewer say??

Go and disable the Reboot on error function (rt click on my computer and go to the properties popup)

The more info you can give us the better.
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Old 09-17-2003, 04:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think it is my video card, here is a forum I posted my problem on with my comnputer specs as well!! Here is the message,
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OK, I have been getting these bluscreen errors ever scince I have replaced my motherboard, RAM and processor with newer ones! These are my comp. specs: ATX case with 500 watt power supply, Asus A7N8X Deluxe Motherboard, AMD Athlon XP 2600 processor, 1 gig of micron pc 2700 DDRAM(dual channel configuration), Chaintech FX (fx-60) 5600 Ultra (256 mb) video card, Soundblaster Audigy 2 soundcard, Sony DRU 500-AX DVD Burner(Master), Plextor 40/12/40a cd burner(Slave), zip 100 internal drive, 3.5 drive. Western Digital 7,200 rpm hard drive (40 gig), KDS Xflat 17 inch CRT monitor, HP Deskjet 940c printer and a motorola sb 5100 cable modem. I use win xp pro operating system.



Now this is the EXACT word for word error message I got:

A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

If this is the first time you have seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:

check to be sure tyou have adequate disk space.If a driver is identified in the stop message, disable the driver or checkthe manufacturer for driver updates. Try changing video adapters.

Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. Disable Bios Memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use safe modeto remove or disable components, restart your computer, press f8 to select adavanced startup options, and then select safe mode.

Technical Information:

***stop: (0xc0000005,0xbf9e74c5,0xaa6b5bb0,0x00000000)

***nv4_disp.dll - address bf9e74c5 base at bf9b8000, datestamp 3e7a99d9

Beginning dump of physical memory

physical memory dump complete

contact your system administrator or technical support group for further assistance.





Well...Thats it in it's entirety! I have recently reformatted my hard drive, so there is not a lot of programs running right now and the drive is clean! If anybody can take a look at my comp. specs and this stop message and tell me what is going on and how I can remedy the situation, I would appreciate it! Thanks!
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Old 09-17-2003, 07:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You are right, it sure looks like your video driver is having a conflict.
I have the same mobo and I am using the same latest (from the nvidia site) drivers.

I would suggest trying ALL of the following:
1. Uninstall ALL (detenator) of the drivers from your system (there is a program which will completely remove all previous leftovers from previous drivers..it was formerly called detanator destroyer...do a google search .. if you cannot find it PM me.
DO NOT REBOOT

AND

2. Go into the Device manager and DELETE all of your Video devices

AND THEN

3. TURN your computer off

While off
1. remove and reseat your video card firmly
2. Switch your memory sticks around (and put them in the 1st and 3rd slots)
3. Go into the BIOS and make sure you have the aperature window for your video card set to 64 and make sure your video shadowing is OFF.

4. crankit up and then install a FRESH set video drivers from the nvidia site

This might not fix a conflict being caused by websurfing (???????) but it will then at least rule out a video card problem...

If you still get bluescreens then your next step will be to move your PCI cards around, try your modem in a different slot.
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Old 09-17-2003, 11:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks LD Dad! I have a computer tech comnming to my house thursday and I am goping to try to get him to flash my motherboard BIOS! I had a guy on another board have almost the exact same problem as me, he went out and bought an asus a7n8x deluxe board and had it installed and then win xp started crashing at different times. (he had a sdram board before just like I did and had no problems) So he flashed the BIOS to version 1005 and he said he has had no problems since that time! I have revision 2.0 on the board itself, but guess I will get the latest BIOS version for the MB and see if that will help! Because I have had two other bluescreens that said other things weren't working....so it may be time for a BIOS flash!
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Old 09-18-2003, 04:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Another reason to get blue screens with this mobo is incompatible memory. I have tested several A7N8X Deluxe and standard, and found that it is incompatible with Kingston Value Ram: You get blue screens during start up (IRQ_LESS_OR_EQUAL) or at any other time. It's a bit picky with memory, you can use cheapo stick with no problems, but some brands will not work well...

But your problem looks more a video driver problem. Which Detonator are you using? Do you have enabled Fastwrites? Sideband addressing? AGP 8x? You can see this information in the advanced properties of the screen configuration.
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Igs, what is the advantage/disadvantage of the fastwrite option??
I have not tinkered with that one...yet
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With Fastwrites enabled the videocard can write directly to memory without CPU intervention, using the northbridge. This was a big performance improvement when videocards had little local memory (16 MB or less) and they could not use local memory for the whole process of rendering while storing textures.

My guess is that T&L (Transform and Lighting) also benefits from fastwrites since for the video card to do this process large chuncks of info have to move from and to memory, but I'm not 3D guru so I may be wrong .

Disabling Fastwrites can improve stability if you have issues. Side Band Addressing can in some instances result in a slightly less stable system, too.

You can get a lot of information about many different things like how an AGP bus works, or what is a hurricane in howstuffworks.com BTW, hope that the hurricane approatching the SE of the US losses much of its energy before touching the coast
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Old 09-18-2003, 08:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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As far as my video card goes, I guess it is just set at whatever the default settings are for a chaintech fx 5600 ultra. I have not tinkered with the settings at all! I wonder if flashing the bios will help with the memory issue? I currently have 2 sticks of 512 micron DDRAM PC 2700 at 333 mhz.
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Old 09-18-2003, 08:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Speaking of memory, is there a good reliable program that can tell me if my memory is working OK or not?? Can I download it on the web?? a free program would be best for me!
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I don't know if flashing the bios will help. Since it's not a difficult operation, it's worth to try. Just download the correct BIOS; save it on a floppy; reboot and press Alt+F2 before the OS loads, to go to the BIOS flasher and follow instructions. Be careful using the correct BIOS for you motherboard version 1.0X or 2.0.

But you can also try removing one memory stick and using the computer this way. If the problem persists, remove this stick and use the other.

There is a program to test the memory called memtest86. But it's not very easy to use, and sometimes it reports false positives (reports memory problems that don't exist.)
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About the video driver. By default SBA and FW are enabled. I don't remember if Detonator allows you to disable them from its control panel (I'm not at home) but I'll check. If it's possible, that's another test that you can do.
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Well I have had my motherboard flashed to the newest version for the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe (version 1006) and I have a new Ti 4200 card from evga in it so hopefully, that will take care of my problems! I am still going to run that memory test though.
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I just had another Blue Screen! I have replaced the vid card, flashed the motherboard bios to the latest and used the latest video card drivers, I finally changed the memory sticks from a 2 and 3 slot configuration to a 1 and 3 slot configuration and it seems to FLY! So mabye the motherboard didn't like the 2 and 3 slot configuration?? You are supposed to be able to use either for dual channel memory! Oh well, I will know if it works depending on if I don't get another bluscreen or not!
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Well I just ahd another crash with blue screen! DAMMIT! This is getting OLD! The only thing I can try that I have left, is to get some NEW quality memory and stick in there!
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