access denied to files in xp

myrmidon · 06-24-2003, 11:18 PM

I have a folder where in all files and subfolders names are displayed green. I think this mean they are encrypted... but i can decrypte them. This folder is on a second partition of a hdd that was running xp on the primary partition. I just formated the primary partition and reinstalled xp. I believe I read somewhere about user permission issues in such cases, but wasnt able to turn up anything in a search.

The name of this computer is "sookie" and I have managed the security settings such that the only users displayed are Administrator(Sookie\Administrator) and Administrators(Sookie\Administrators). I have turned off auditing and set the owner to admin and admins (at different times) and turned off inherited permisions. That allowed me to delete all the other users that were listed, some of which were just strings of letters and numbers... like a key. However, none of this has helped me as the files remain encrypted (properties->general->advanced) and any attempt to uncheck the box ends with an "access denied" error.

Please help!

06-25-2003, 01:38 AM

I run XP but the only time I have had it denie me access is when I have tried to open something that is in use by XP. Such as the system restore files because they are currently monitoring my computer. Could be the reason, Any one else care to take a go at it?

OH and BTW...... Welcome to PCTT!

myrmidon · 06-25-2003, 01:44 AM

hehe, ty for the welcome

the folder contains some mp3s and misc downloaded apps, no system files =/

tamarisk · 06-25-2003, 01:57 AM

i guess to access them u must be in administrator mode.

06-25-2003, 02:05 AM

HMMMMMMM there is one other time I have had a problem withtrying to open a file that contained MP3s in it but it was because I was trying to open it on the hard drive of the computer I am networked to. XP is pretty possesive, I know there was an update for XP that covered the user permission issues But that was a pretty long time ago and I dont remember what exactly it was. Have you checked the XP web site? If you need a link let me know and I will see what I can dig up for you.

iAvalance · 06-25-2003, 02:34 AM

You propably have used a security policy on your disk. By reinstalling XP you lost the unique key to this encryption algorithm and you can forget anything what's on it. This is basically a protection feature; if you steal someone's hard drive you can't read it for you need the computer that owned it... and if that one is well protected some way (like access control a.k.a. login) the data is safe.

This is what I think your problem can be after reading your case... Maybe oneone else knows for sure and helps you recover your data as in my case that is impossible...

tamarisk · 06-25-2003, 04:36 AM

right click on folder and see if it is read-only. worth trying it might be the problem.

If it is read-only then take off the read only

LPDad · 06-25-2003, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iAvalance
You propably have used a security policy on your disk. By reinstalling XP you lost the unique key to this encryption algorithm and you can forget anything what's on it. This is basically a protection feature; if you steal someone's hard drive you can't read it for you need the computer that owned it... and if that one is well protected some way (like access control a.k.a. login) the data is safe.

This is what I think your problem can be after reading your case... Maybe oneone else knows for sure and helps you recover your data as in my case that is impossible...

I am sure that iAvalance is on the money-- I am not sure if any of the commonly available programs can decrypt them.

iAvalance · 06-25-2003, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LPDad
I am sure that iAvalance is on the money-- I am not sure if any of the commonly available programs can decrypt them.

Found some good news (and maybe some bad as well) http://www.compulink.co.uk/~davedorn...xpencrypt1.htm

I meant another encryption (security policy, whatever) but this seems to me what is described.

except:
Note also that when creating a recovery agent, it should be assigned to a different user account to the one on which EFS is enabled. The reason here is obvious. If you create a recovery agent on your EFS-enabled user account and you accidentally damage or delete that account, you will almost certainly lose the key that allows you to decrypt the files.

So I hope you got the key somewhere around, otherwise I think I have to disappoint you like I said in my first post...
back to my Mac now!

myrmidon · 06-25-2003, 11:26 AM

well.... drat. That certainly does seem to be the problem, although I have no idea how the files got encrypted in the first place. The only good news is that the comp is my brothers, so it is him that is up the creek, and now I know more about xp's encryption for my own use. Thank you all for the response =D

06-24-2003, 11:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
myrmidon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 18	access denied to files in xp I have a folder where in all files and subfolders names are displayed green. I think this mean they are encrypted... but i can decrypte them. This folder is on a second partition of a hdd that was running xp on the primary partition. I just formated the primary partition and reinstalled xp. I believe I read somewhere about user permission issues in such cases, but wasnt able to turn up anything in a search. The name of this computer is "sookie" and I have managed the security settings such that the only users displayed are Administrator(Sookie\Administrator) and Administrators(Sookie\Administrators). I have turned off auditing and set the owner to admin and admins (at different times) and turned off inherited permisions. That allowed me to delete all the other users that were listed, some of which were just strings of letters and numbers... like a key. However, none of this has helped me as the files remain encrypted (properties->general->advanced) and any attempt to uncheck the box ends with an "access denied" error. Please help!

06-25-2003, 01:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
myrmidon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 18	hehe, ty for the welcome the folder contains some mp3s and misc downloaded apps, no system files =/ __________________ "Tis through no faul of Magus that Lavos lives."

06-25-2003, 01:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
tamarisk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Malta (Europe) Posts: 173	i guess to access them u must be in administrator mode. __________________ http://infonote.blogsome.com Help find a cure for Cancer and other diseases by using unused computer resources http://folding.stanford.edu/

06-25-2003, 02:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
iAvalance Lost Forever Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spilniks Posts: 276	You propably have used a security policy on your disk. By reinstalling XP you lost the unique key to this encryption algorithm and you can forget anything what's on it. This is basically a protection feature; if you steal someone's hard drive you can't read it for you need the computer that owned it... and if that one is well protected some way (like access control a.k.a. login) the data is safe. This is what I think your problem can be after reading your case... Maybe oneone else knows for sure and helps you recover your data as in my case that is impossible... __________________ "A computer program does what you told it to do, not what you want it to do" - Greer (English translation)

06-25-2003, 04:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
tamarisk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Malta (Europe) Posts: 173	right click on folder and see if it is read-only. worth trying it might be the problem. If it is read-only then take off the read only __________________ http://infonote.blogsome.com Help find a cure for Cancer and other diseases by using unused computer resources http://folding.stanford.edu/

06-25-2003, 01:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
feenies-wife Guest Posts: n/a	I run XP but the only time I have had it denie me access is when I have tried to open something that is in use by XP. Such as the system restore files because they are currently monitoring my computer. Could be the reason, Any one else care to take a go at it? OH and BTW...... Welcome to PCTT!

06-25-2003, 02:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
feenies-wife Guest Posts: n/a	HMMMMMMM there is one other time I have had a problem withtrying to open a file that contained MP3s in it but it was because I was trying to open it on the hard drive of the computer I am networked to. XP is pretty possesive, I know there was an update for XP that covered the user permission issues But that was a pretty long time ago and I dont remember what exactly it was. Have you checked the XP web site? If you need a link let me know and I will see what I can dig up for you.

06-25-2003, 11:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
myrmidon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 18	well.... drat. That certainly does seem to be the problem, although I have no idea how the files got encrypted in the first place. The only good news is that the comp is my brothers, so it is him that is up the creek, and now I know more about xp's encryption for my own use. Thank you all for the response =D __________________ "Tis through no faul of Magus that Lavos lives."

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