New CD-Rom no works

alegar001 · 11-21-2002, 02:08 AM

Stupid peace of junk cost me to upgrade to a new PC! Was working fine then it all went squirrelly, with win 95. After I solved that problem with a long night seating with my wingman reinstalling win95 and an upgrade 2 win98 it worked fine. That is till about a week and a half later. The CD-Rom all of a sudden decided to die in the middle of Myst adventure. At first I thought no problem just the drives life has ended. So I saved up my pennies and dimes and made a trip to Radio Shack. Got a nice 52X and put her in…at first the thing looked like it would work. But, when I got to win98 it didn’t even know that it had A CD drive, but setup did. None less to say I was unhappy I than tried to get it to work in every way but to duct tape it on, and beat it with a hammer. That’s been 9 months or more and it still hasn’t got any closer to working.

Dose any 1 have any insight into this?

11-21-2002, 02:23 AM

nope soRRy

LPDad · 11-21-2002, 06:32 AM

The solution is easy. Just Duct-tape it securely on and start beating it with a ball-peen hammer!!

Some Ideas. (Try these one at a time, until you find the problem or until the problem resolves)

first: make sure the settings on the drive itself are correct. It should be on "master" if it is at the end of the ribbon cable, it should be on "slave" if it is on the middle connecter. (if you have a newer computer then try using the "csel" or automatic setting)

If you have 2 drives on the cable ( if you are using both the master and the slave positions) and if the settings on the drive are incorrect, then you will only be able to see one drive.

If you have 2 drives try swapping the drives to see if the new drive then works. Try different settings on the drive selectors

And ...make sure you have the cable connecter correct--some of the cables can be put on "upside/down or backwards". Try using a newer ribbon cable (they come in 2 sizes, depending on your computer-- Try connectiong with a new cable, -- if you have a choice, use the larger size)

Make sure you are getting power to the drive!!! (is your power source large enough or are you trying to get by with a 200W POS)

After you have tried all of the above (and have triple verified that the drive/drives are hooked up correctly and powered--Then go into the control panel/system/DEVICE MANAGER---

Choose the Disk Drives and the REMOVE IT (REMOVE ALL OF THE DISK DRIVES !!!!!) Get rid of them, Flush em, G'bye !!

THen Reboot.

Let windows 98 try to see the new harddrives and then reinstall them (and install the drivers)

Hopefully that will work.

Let me know how things work out.

LPDad · 11-21-2002, 07:31 AM

Oh, and one more thing:

for future reference I would not even bother with replacing a CD-ROM drive. Instead get yourself a nice DVD-ROM (or even a cheap CDRW) drive. The prices on these drives have dropped so low that often they are CHEAPER than a replacement CDROM drive, and the DVD drive is just as fast at reading CD-R media (usually 40-50x) plus you have the advantage of the DVD drive being able to read virtually all types of media (yes, there are some CD-ROM drives out there that still have trouble reading certain CDRWs and Colored CD-Rs. And in the future we are probably going to be seeing more and more programs (Read--Games!!) being distributed on DVD media.

'course, that's just MY Opinion!!!

gbread49 · 11-21-2002, 09:49 AM

One other thing you might check......In your BIOS Setup, check to see if the BIOS is recognizing the drive. (A quick indication is at boot, if the drive is shown on the Boot screen. Should be listed as either a Master or Slave on one of the IDE connectors, depending on which connector it is connected too.)

In your BIOS, make sure that the location that your drive is connected (IDE Primary or Secondary - Master/Slave is Enabled or is set on Auto detect)

LPDad · 11-21-2002, 01:48 PM

Thanks GB, Hehe, between the 2 of us we can USUALLY get things right. (or at least make sure we do not leave something out)

gbread49 · 11-21-2002, 01:53 PM

We do try LPDad, we do try...... *L*

Too bad your way out there and I'm way over here...*L*..We could start a Computer Tech Counsulting outfit....You could be the "Leo" of UTC and I'll be "Patrick".......

Oh, and RB could be "Yoshi", just one thing we would have to keep him away from "Cat" and "Megan"........heheehehheehe!

alegar001, please let us know if you get it working.....

LPDad · 11-21-2002, 02:25 PM

Hehe, Sounds like a GREAT Idea...GB!!!.
By the Way...Hop on over and Snag my latest XP "MUST HAVE" item.

http://www.unitethecows.com/forums/s...0postid=25026\

Cirga · 11-21-2002, 02:51 PM

Just have to say.. Right on LPdad and Gbread

Dont think I see it enough.. but you two need some kudos for this info.

This is the kind of thing HP would charge a user 150 bucks an hour to explain.

Music Pirate · 11-21-2002, 03:10 PM

Man I hate coming into a thread and reading the computer problem and coming up with an answer only to read on and find out LPDad beats me too it...oh well.. LOL ..

....There are so many of us with computer experience here that when someone has a problem we run to the thread just to get there first to answer it...

gbread49 · 11-21-2002, 04:27 PM

MP you got to be quick with LPDad around...He is faster than a speeding bullet, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound...well you get the idea......

:thumbs up to LPDad..........

alegar001 · 11-22-2002, 04:45 AM

Thanks for your input but i the only way i think i am going to get that thing to wor is to send it off, By the way it was a P1 100mhz with 1 CD drive, but i have wasted my time and yours on this futile hopr to repair it my self. I think this sick cow needs a visit to d vet. By the way i have 2 old betsy and the 1 i use al the time; so no worries about me missing a bit of UTC due to down time ( knock on wood).:computer:

11-21-2002, 02:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
alegar001 King of the lurkers Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: I am thinking of some place real hot...no hotter..yea there ! Posts: 109	New CD-Rom no works Stupid peace of junk cost me to upgrade to a new PC! Was working fine then it all went squirrelly, with win 95. After I solved that problem with a long night seating with my wingman reinstalling win95 and an upgrade 2 win98 it worked fine. That is till about a week and a half later. The CD-Rom all of a sudden decided to die in the middle of Myst adventure. At first I thought no problem just the drives life has ended. So I saved up my pennies and dimes and made a trip to Radio Shack. Got a nice 52X and put her in…at first the thing looked like it would work. But, when I got to win98 it didn’t even know that it had A CD drive, but setup did. None less to say I was unhappy I than tried to get it to work in every way but to duct tape it on, and beat it with a hammer. That’s been 9 months or more and it still hasn’t got any closer to working. Dose any 1 have any insight into this?

11-21-2002, 06:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
LPDad Admin & "Fixer" Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 2,293	The solution is easy. Just Duct-tape it securely on and start beating it with a ball-peen hammer!! Some Ideas. (Try these one at a time, until you find the problem or until the problem resolves) first: make sure the settings on the drive itself are correct. It should be on "master" if it is at the end of the ribbon cable, it should be on "slave" if it is on the middle connecter. (if you have a newer computer then try using the "csel" or automatic setting) If you have 2 drives on the cable ( if you are using both the master and the slave positions) and if the settings on the drive are incorrect, then you will only be able to see one drive. If you have 2 drives try swapping the drives to see if the new drive then works. Try different settings on the drive selectors And ...make sure you have the cable connecter correct--some of the cables can be put on "upside/down or backwards". Try using a newer ribbon cable (they come in 2 sizes, depending on your computer-- Try connectiong with a new cable, -- if you have a choice, use the larger size) Make sure you are getting power to the drive!!! (is your power source large enough or are you trying to get by with a 200W POS) After you have tried all of the above (and have triple verified that the drive/drives are hooked up correctly and powered--Then go into the control panel/system/DEVICE MANAGER--- Choose the Disk Drives and the REMOVE IT (REMOVE ALL OF THE DISK DRIVES !!!!!) Get rid of them, Flush em, G'bye !! THen Reboot. Let windows 98 try to see the new harddrives and then reinstall them (and install the drivers) Hopefully that will work. Let me know how things work out. __________________ We don't need no stink'n TechSupport We ARE TechSupport. *LPDad* Administrator

11-21-2002, 07:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
LPDad Admin & "Fixer" Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 2,293	Oh, and one more thing: for future reference I would not even bother with replacing a CD-ROM drive. Instead get yourself a nice DVD-ROM (or even a cheap CDRW) drive. The prices on these drives have dropped so low that often they are CHEAPER than a replacement CDROM drive, and the DVD drive is just as fast at reading CD-R media (usually 40-50x) plus you have the advantage of the DVD drive being able to read virtually all types of media (yes, there are some CD-ROM drives out there that still have trouble reading certain CDRWs and Colored CD-Rs. And in the future we are probably going to be seeing more and more programs (Read--Games!!) being distributed on DVD media. 'course, that's just MY Opinion!!! __________________ We don't need no stink'n TechSupport We ARE TechSupport. *LPDad* Administrator

11-21-2002, 09:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
gbread49 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 744	One other thing you might check......In your BIOS Setup, check to see if the BIOS is recognizing the drive. (A quick indication is at boot, if the drive is shown on the Boot screen. Should be listed as either a Master or Slave on one of the IDE connectors, depending on which connector it is connected too.) In your BIOS, make sure that the location that your drive is connected (IDE Primary or Secondary - Master/Slave is Enabled or is set on Auto detect) __________________

11-21-2002, 01:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
LPDad Admin & "Fixer" Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 2,293	Thanks GB, Hehe, between the 2 of us we can USUALLY get things right. (or at least make sure we do not leave something out) __________________ We don't need no stink'n TechSupport We ARE TechSupport. *LPDad* Administrator

11-21-2002, 02:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	nope soRRy

11-21-2002, 01:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
gbread49 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 744	We do try LPDad, we do try...... L Too bad your way out there and I'm way over here...L..We could start a Computer Tech Counsulting outfit....You could be the "Leo" of UTC and I'll be "Patrick"....... Oh, and RB could be "Yoshi", just one thing we would have to keep him away from "Cat" and "Megan"........heheehehheehe! alegar001, please let us know if you get it working..... __________________

11-21-2002, 02:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
LPDad Admin & "Fixer" Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 2,293	Hehe, Sounds like a GREAT Idea...GB!!!. By the Way...Hop on over and Snag my latest XP "MUST HAVE" item. http://www.unitethecows.com/forums/s...0postid=25026\ __________________ We don't need no stink'n TechSupport We ARE TechSupport. *LPDad* Administrator

11-21-2002, 02:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cirga Lurking AdMiN Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In my own little world. Buts its ok. They know me here. Posts: 3,245	Just have to say.. Right on LPdad and Gbread Dont think I see it enough.. but you two need some kudos for this info. This is the kind of thing HP would charge a user 150 bucks an hour to explain. __________________ Vote For Us! -- It will get you hot chicks. No really It will! ---- www.myTego.com - Give your devices a face! Dont be a conformist!

11-21-2002, 03:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Music Pirate Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 452	Man I hate coming into a thread and reading the computer problem and coming up with an answer only to read on and find out LPDad beats me too it...oh well.. LOL ......There are so many of us with computer experience here that when someone has a problem we run to the thread just to get there first to answer it...

11-21-2002, 04:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
gbread49 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 744	MP you got to be quick with LPDad around...He is faster than a speeding bullet, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound...well you get the idea...... :thumbs up to LPDad.......... __________________

11-22-2002, 04:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
alegar001 King of the lurkers Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: I am thinking of some place real hot...no hotter..yea there ! Posts: 109	Thanks for your input but i the only way i think i am going to get that thing to wor is to send it off, By the way it was a P1 100mhz with 1 CD drive, but i have wasted my time and yours on this futile hopr to repair it my self. I think this sick cow needs a visit to d vet. By the way i have 2 old betsy and the 1 i use al the time; so no worries about me missing a bit of UTC due to down time ( knock on wood).:computer:

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