remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music from the Intern

[stranger]

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee (news - web sites) said Tuesday he favors developing new technology to remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music from the Internet.

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[Hova]

Total BS.

[riverjetty]

I seem to be able to destroy my computer without the help of the government.

[Dr. Avery]

Orrin Hatch. Only you could be so bold. I've hated you since the first time I heard you speak. I could write volumes on what a wretched, disgusting human being you are.

But that isn't what I am here to talk about.

You gotta give 'em credit - That's thinking outside the box. Like it or not, If they could implement a system in which your computer could be destroyed - remotely even - it would put a severe hindrance on the p2p community. Kind of a cool concept in an unfortunate sort of way.

Bring us down though? Hahahaha. Not a chance.

Of course, it would never pass. It is too sloppy. The collateral damage would be horrific. Especially to the computer industry at large as people unable or unwilling to replace their computers stop buying software altogether. I suppose the RIAA thinks they'll be the only ones with their finger on the button...

However, If it was approved, It could put a pretty tidy end to the copyright issue. Sooner or later, this is what we will be facing to a greater or lesser degree.

It is up to us to stick to our guns. It is up to them to develop bigger guns to use against us.

As far as I'm concerned, If some slick fat cat hollywood art exploiter wants to take pot shots at my computer - let 'em. I got a stack of 486's that would love to come out of retirement and serve their master one last time.

Bring it on, RIAA and friends. We outnumber you, we are smarter than you, and collectively we have the power to bring you down. In fact - to bring you down, all we have to do - is nothing. If we all sit on our posteriors, do anything EXCEPT buy your goods, you're history. Defunct, unemployed, past tense, post mortem, finished, cruisin' over waterfall of s**t with a anvil tied to your willy (and I don't mean that Nelson fellow).

If this is the best you've got, you'd better go back to the drawing board, fire your little planning team, and hire someone with a brain.

Interesting what would happen if this technology that zaps computers from afar were to be leaked...

...And rest assured it would be.

The nerve of these people.

And you - Senator Hatch. You are a disgrace to your party, your peers, and your country.

[iAvalance]

Originally posted by stranger
... developing new technology to remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music from the Internet.

Guess they are targetting the windows market here, LOL

[bacardi99]

Ok, I skimmed the article, didn't read it. But I'm LMAO at the idea of something like that stopping us!

They'd have to put a worldwide ban on all forms of music, rhythmic noise, speech,a nd everything else to truely prevent it.

Please! Verbal lockdown anyone?

[Asterix]

The thing is many security analysts say that the new security features being built into Os's especially palladium etc... say these things are quite like double edged swords that can cut both ways....

Coz systems like Palladium allow developers to ensure that their progs arent tampered... and this can be used by P2P vendors to create water tight networks blocking out RIAA bots...

But in my opinion as a user still negatives outweigh positives by a very large fraction

[ddandelion]

Orin Hatch is an idiot. I'm glad he's not representing me.

[Dr. Avery]

True dat, ddandelion - Welcome to PCTT, enjoy your stay

[brycen257]

What idiots gave this jackass a position of responsibility ? Does he even have the slightest idea as to the potential consequences of what he is actaully promoting or have the bribes and brainwashing from the music industry so totally lobotomized him to the point where he spouts nothing but mindless babble? (did he ever say anything intelligent? ) Maybe someone should give Mr Hatch an intoduction to the 21st century . He sounds like something that just crawled out of the mud from the stone age .

[Dr. Avery]

Originally posted by brycen257
What idiots gave this jackass a position of responsibility ?

The State of Utah. 'Nuff said.

[Roadblock]

Careful there Doc, we got a couple of good guys here from Utah (Vernarial & Cirga). I take it that they are as upset with him as we are.

[LPDad]

LOL...yeah, careful Doc, I was BORN there also (while my father did a medical residency), but that is beside the point.

You are all just way too emotional about this!! You need to calmly look at and evaluate a few things that are being said...it does not matter WHO says them, it really matters WHY they are being said.

Look at it this way:

1. This really shows you just how much power and influence the recording industry can bring to bear within the government. They are putting the major screws to government officials to do something...ANYTHING.

2. The Recording Industry is becoming more and more desperate. They keep trying new things (the wrong things, in my opinion--but then they are not really concerned about my opinion) and nothing seems to be working...at least nothing that will keep the Recording Industry happy.

3. As far as the comment about "blowing up Computers" goes-- Can't you see what this is about?? this is simply saying something very outrageous (and not very practical) for a couple of reasons. The first reason is to get publicity-- bring this whole thing BACK to the public eye..and keep it there. In this, they have succeeded. The RIAA has been screaming for years, and has made little headway..nobody seems to care. Bring up "blowing up computers" and Presto.... headline news all day...now everyone is talking about what a large problem this is.
The next reason is to cause such a fuss to elicit feedback from everyone...public, private sector, Tech Sector, everyone....and they are certainly getting it now. The Gov needs this feedback to figure out what to do next.



4. Blowing up your computers....Ain't never gong to happen. You are all getting so worked up about this...just take a deep breath and think it through. The government is never going to sanction destruction of property for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that there is a little known/used law that says that if the government destroys your property you are entitled to compensation.

5. There are just too many ways to get around this. Hell, all you would have to do is set yourself up with a cheap computer and use that for your file-sharing and testing. once you have a good file, then you could move it to your good pouter. IF "they" (whoever "they" are) manage to put a virus/worm/whatever into a file that you download then only your cheap computer has it drive erased, or at the most the Bios gets erased.
Hell, I could set up a computer for just such a task for less than $50-- not that I would. This is just a simple example of what might work. People a lot smarter than me would come up with much better solutions/protection.

The REALLY big problem for filesharing will come from the big IT companies (microsoft, etc), quietly incorporating checks and balances in their future products.

AND, while with the RIAA it is mostly about GREED .(in my OPINION), put yourself into a small developer's shoes.
You put all of your time and effort into developing a product to sell, and all of a sudden everyone is using your product, but you are not getting reimbursed for all the hard work you put into it. Kind of makes it hard for you to put food on the table at your house.

This is not an issue that is going to go away. Somehow, somewhere, a workable solution will be found.
I don't really care much for the RIAA. I think they should stop spending billions in trying to get everyone, and just lower the cost of the music to where it takes more time and effort to download songs than to simply go out and purchase the music.
...well, the way the RIAA is going, that will NEVER HAPPEN.

So, think about what is being said, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHY it is being said. In this case the WHY is much more important than the WHAT. (the WHAT is just being used to get publicity and keep it)


Don't like my comments?? Hey, that's ok. All I am trying to do is to make you think a little bit differently.
We each have our own opinions--and that is what is important.

[Roadblock]

Why, because LPDad said so! And don't you ever forget it!

Just kidding my ol' friend and hero there. We used to say that back at the pasture all the time. And ya know what, he is usually right.

He is right here too. But, it is important that we remain wary of what new tricks that the desperate "suits" from the RIAA are up to. I am sure that Senator Hatch will come regret his comments this. Consumers have a long memory, and they will respond with votes, or lack there of.

I wonder if the RIAA has a clue about how many sales that their approach has cost them on the P2P issue. Had they embraced it, and worked with us, we could have all been happy campers, including the RIAA. Now we will never know. I too am quite sick on being called a thief by the RIAA & MPAA et. al. My feelings are this. If I bought it, it's mine. I didn't "rent" it. If I got something I want to share with a friend, then I will continue to do so. I would guess that about 75% of the music I have downloaded, I already owned on vinyl, cassette, or even 8 track. (yep, I am that old!) and the rest, I wouldn't have bought anyway. So how can they honestly count that as lost revenue? They are grasping at straws. Long live the artists who make the music, and support them by going to their concerts. That is where their money comes from.

[kRiStiNa]

Originally posted by riverjetty
I seem to be able to destroy my computer without the help of the government.

Haha same here