My CPU, IT BURNS!!!

killer_cow · 10-26-2003, 04:16 PM

Someone PLEASE tell me why oh why my Athlon 2600 runs at 55 degrees C when idle and over 60 when active!!!! HELP HELP! I have a Volcano 9, wot is my problem!!!??
Would overdoing it with thermal grease/compound cause a problem? I say this because i have a sneeking suspicion i put too much.

Though i REALLY hate taking the Volcano 9 off and re-mounting it, my precious little CPU cant enjoy being crushed by that beast and i think the clips on my socket a ready to go bye, bye

!!!

Actually could I just ask, anyone else find it incredibly hard to mount volcano 9s? I always find it such a struggle. I clip the one side down and then use a screwdriver to push the other side down, is this correct? Im always scared my die is gonna get damaged. Any tips?

Someone please advise me!

Cheers,

K-C

Hollowpoint · 10-26-2003, 04:19 PM

pleased you asked, because my shuttle runs an AMD 1.3 with liquid PSU cooling, and it runs at a staggering 42 - 44 degrees, maybe we can both get help on this one.

good luck

Pasty901 · 10-26-2003, 05:00 PM

I got a volcano 9 on my main system and they r a pain to fit, yup u did it rite, hook the 1 end over and use the screwdriver to push down and hook the other over.

As the for the temps ur gettin that seems about on par with mine, mines only a 1600XP and i get 58 degrees idle. Although AMDs do run notoriously hot, mines been at this temp for months now and ive not noticed any problems tbh.

However i did put a coolermaster fan (cost me £5 from the market) on my friends 2600XP the highest temp that has seen is 45! Go figure, it led me to the conclusion that maybe the volcano 9 was the problem. But dont quote me on that as ive not looked into it any further cus as i say ive not noticed my system freezing or not being able to cope cus its too hot.

Dont worry about the V9 crushing ur cpu - it wont it just sits nicely on top of it keeping it cool (hopefully)! As for the thermal grease yes putting too much on will cause a slight prob but usually nuthing major - unless u put 3/4 tubes on lol so really wudnt worry on that score

Although im afraid i cant offer a solution i hope it helps to know that ur not alone! Also eventhough u know wot temp the cpu is at have u had any lockups etc that could b related the temp of ur cpu?

LPDad · 10-26-2003, 05:41 PM

Too much thermal paste will cause higher temps.

you also need good airflow through the case. If you do not have good AIRFLOW through the case then it will run hot no matter what you do.

Make sure you use Arctic silver (I use AS3, although there is a newer version out)...Follow the directions on the www.arcticsilver.com website..and DON't overdo it.

The BEST advice I can give (based on experience) is to get yourself a THERMALRIGHT SLK-800 heatsink and put a nice big, QUIET 80 mm fan on it.

My Overclocked XP 2800 runs at 39-41 (43 under FULL LOAD) when the ambient Room temp is 30 C/86 F. (Ask Berks-- he was running high temps and could not hear himself think..now he is Cool and Quiet..and his Wife is happy too, although I cannot take credit for that)

Fister · 10-26-2003, 06:13 PM

n00b question
where can you tell the temp?

killer_cow · 10-26-2003, 06:21 PM

Thanx for ur replys. Pasty nope i not had any lockups so far, but thats not what im worried about, i want my processor to have a nice life expectancy. When temps get to 60 the little line on the graph begins to take a nasty fall. but yeh it is very re-assuring to know that im not alone, im just dissappointed. I mean the v9 is rated to deal with Athlon 3400!!! so i dont see any excuse for temps with a 2600 over 45 or so.

I actually have another PC with a V9 and it runs at about 38-42degrees (its an athlon 1800).

LPDad your words of wisdom once again are very much obliged. I always thought why not just get nice heatsink and stick a fan on it, well now uve shown it its worth while, but ill save that for when and if i upgrade in the future. Cheers.

If any1 else has problems with V9s plz let me know.

killer_cow · 10-26-2003, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fister
m00b question
where can you tell the temp?

This is how. Its gott be the best prog for tellin your temps ive come across. But thats just me. Try it out anywayz.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

Enjoy!

Wobbel · 10-26-2003, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fister

where can you tell the temp?

Motherboard Monitor is a very good one.

If you have an ASUS motherboard you can use Asus Probe, but this will only work with an ASUS mobo, as far as i know

the hunter · 10-26-2003, 09:24 PM

aida32 is a great program for telling the temps, as well as pretty much anything else you want to know about your system. It will identify your motherboard, and sound, and video boards. Its worth checking out.

the hunter · 10-26-2003, 09:36 PM

PS someone want to give it a try, and give a report back about how they find it works? LP you would be a good one to give a report about it.http://www.aida32.hu/aida32.php

Hollowpoint · 10-27-2003, 05:07 AM

Quote:

where can you tell the temp?

I look in the bios

Pasty901 · 10-27-2003, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by *WT*
I look in the bios

lol me 2! my fans r all connected a my rheobus so motherboard monitor n progs like that dont work for me

gud ole bios dus the trick! hehe

Kungfucious · 10-27-2003, 06:17 AM

best way to keep your pc cool is to add some intake fans on one side, and extractor fans on the opposite so that you get good airflow as mentioned before.. my temp dropped from 45 - 35 just by adding one intake fan.. and thats under full load while playing halo on maxed out settings.

killer_cow · 10-27-2003, 03:13 PM

My problem is that my hetsink doesnt even get hot in the first place. So somewhere its a slow transfer of heat and ill blame that on my thermal compund (£2 "CoolMaster" stuff).

The hunter: yup aida is a great program for finding temps too, but its a bit inconvenient and doesnt give hard drive temps (if your hard drive does have a sensor that is). Otherwise I use AIDA32 for any info i need about anything about my PC's innerds. good choice!

Can anyone recommend a good online shop for thermal compund? Im looking for Arctic Silver or other higher quality 'stuff'. Any recommendations???

Cheers.

rastagard · 10-27-2003, 05:16 PM

Here's a must read for cooling yer computer.........

WARNING: Once you start reading this, it will be near impossible to stop................

As a point of giving credit where due, this was originally posted nearly a year ago by monkee (giy)............

10-26-2003, 04:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
killer_cow Moo indeed. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a grassy field :D Posts: 140	My CPU, IT BURNS!!! Someone PLEASE tell me why oh why my Athlon 2600 runs at 55 degrees C when idle and over 60 when active!!!! HELP HELP! I have a Volcano 9, wot is my problem!!!?? Would overdoing it with thermal grease/compound cause a problem? I say this because i have a sneeking suspicion i put too much. Though i REALLY hate taking the Volcano 9 off and re-mounting it, my precious little CPU cant enjoy being crushed by that beast and i think the clips on my socket a ready to go bye, bye !!! Actually could I just ask, anyone else find it incredibly hard to mount volcano 9s? I always find it such a struggle. I clip the one side down and then use a screwdriver to push the other side down, is this correct? Im always scared my die is gonna get damaged. Any tips? Someone please advise me! Cheers, K-C __________________

10-26-2003, 04:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hollowpoint Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: a small molecule called earth in a vast blood system called the universe surrounded by a heavenly body... maybe Posts: 108	pleased you asked, because my shuttle runs an AMD 1.3 with liquid PSU cooling, and it runs at a staggering 42 - 44 degrees, maybe we can both get help on this one. good luck __________________ <anamexis> oh man <anamexis> I was opening a coke, right --> Beefpile (~mbeefpile@cloaked.wi.rr.com) has joined #themacmind <anamexis> and it exploded <anamexis> ALMOST all over my keyboard <anamexis> but I got it away just in time <-- Beefpile has quit (sick ****ers) <anamexis> :<

10-26-2003, 05:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pasty901 News Writer! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 785	I got a volcano 9 on my main system and they r a pain to fit, yup u did it rite, hook the 1 end over and use the screwdriver to push down and hook the other over. As the for the temps ur gettin that seems about on par with mine, mines only a 1600XP and i get 58 degrees idle. Although AMDs do run notoriously hot, mines been at this temp for months now and ive not noticed any problems tbh. However i did put a coolermaster fan (cost me £5 from the market) on my friends 2600XP the highest temp that has seen is 45! Go figure, it led me to the conclusion that maybe the volcano 9 was the problem. But dont quote me on that as ive not looked into it any further cus as i say ive not noticed my system freezing or not being able to cope cus its too hot. Dont worry about the V9 crushing ur cpu - it wont it just sits nicely on top of it keeping it cool (hopefully)! As for the thermal grease yes putting too much on will cause a slight prob but usually nuthing major - unless u put 3/4 tubes on lol so really wudnt worry on that score Although im afraid i cant offer a solution i hope it helps to know that ur not alone! Also eventhough u know wot temp the cpu is at have u had any lockups etc that could b related the temp of ur cpu? __________________ "The hardest thing in this world is to live in it."

10-26-2003, 05:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
LPDad Admin & "Fixer" Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 2,293	Too much thermal paste will cause higher temps. you also need good airflow through the case. If you do not have good AIRFLOW through the case then it will run hot no matter what you do. Make sure you use Arctic silver (I use AS3, although there is a newer version out)...Follow the directions on the www.arcticsilver.com website..and DON't overdo it. The BEST advice I can give (based on experience) is to get yourself a THERMALRIGHT SLK-800 heatsink and put a nice big, QUIET 80 mm fan on it. My Overclocked XP 2800 runs at 39-41 (43 under FULL LOAD) when the ambient Room temp is 30 C/86 F. (Ask Berks-- he was running high temps and could not hear himself think..now he is Cool and Quiet..and his Wife is happy too, although I cannot take credit for that) __________________ We don't need no stink'n TechSupport We ARE TechSupport. *LPDad* Administrator

10-26-2003, 06:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Fister h3\|P \| 4m 5tUcK Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UVic Posts: 1,898	n00b question where can you tell the temp? __________________

10-26-2003, 06:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
killer_cow Moo indeed. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a grassy field :D Posts: 140	Thanx for ur replys. Pasty nope i not had any lockups so far, but thats not what im worried about, i want my processor to have a nice life expectancy. When temps get to 60 the little line on the graph begins to take a nasty fall. but yeh it is very re-assuring to know that im not alone, im just dissappointed. I mean the v9 is rated to deal with Athlon 3400!!! so i dont see any excuse for temps with a 2600 over 45 or so. I actually have another PC with a V9 and it runs at about 38-42degrees (its an athlon 1800). LPDad your words of wisdom once again are very much obliged. I always thought why not just get nice heatsink and stick a fan on it, well now uve shown it its worth while, but ill save that for when and if i upgrade in the future. Cheers. If any1 else has problems with V9s plz let me know. __________________

10-26-2003, 09:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
the hunter getting hitched Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,655	aida32 is a great program for telling the temps, as well as pretty much anything else you want to know about your system. It will identify your motherboard, and sound, and video boards. Its worth checking out.

10-26-2003, 09:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
the hunter getting hitched Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,655	PS someone want to give it a try, and give a report back about how they find it works? LP you would be a good one to give a report about it.http://www.aida32.hu/aida32.php

10-27-2003, 06:17 AM	#13 (permalink)
Kungfucious mediatechie.com Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 809	best way to keep your pc cool is to add some intake fans on one side, and extractor fans on the opposite so that you get good airflow as mentioned before.. my temp dropped from 45 - 35 just by adding one intake fan.. and thats under full load while playing halo on maxed out settings. __________________ http://mediatechie.com Leave me a message in my shoutbox! ... would appreciate the feedback! thanks people!

10-27-2003, 03:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
killer_cow Moo indeed. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a grassy field :D Posts: 140	My problem is that my hetsink doesnt even get hot in the first place. So somewhere its a slow transfer of heat and ill blame that on my thermal compund (£2 "CoolMaster" stuff). The hunter: yup aida is a great program for finding temps too, but its a bit inconvenient and doesnt give hard drive temps (if your hard drive does have a sensor that is). Otherwise I use AIDA32 for any info i need about anything about my PC's innerds. good choice! Can anyone recommend a good online shop for thermal compund? Im looking for Arctic Silver or other higher quality 'stuff'. Any recommendations??? Cheers. __________________

10-27-2003, 05:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
rastagard Humble Idiot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 2,271	Here's a must read for cooling yer computer......... WARNING: Once you start reading this, it will be near impossible to stop................ As a point of giving credit where due, this was originally posted nearly a year ago by monkee (giy)............

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