Cpu ????

ABOU · 10-19-2003, 12:05 PM

ok i got a slight problem again

i had it all planned out twice xp 2500 but i need a betta one so i think mmm 3000+ but i have read reviews saying it aint worth the money and your betta gettin a 2800+ (both barton) im not sure on weather to over clock so i thought 3000+ but im not sure now if it is worth an extra £100

but of advice of a tech expert

RipperRoo · 10-19-2003, 01:11 PM

to be honest, no its not worth the extra cash for the 3000,

Here is a page that will come in handy to help you make your mind up.
you will see that the 333mhz fsb barton 3000xp run at less than an additiional 100mhz clock speed, and its been years since you payed £1 per mhz.

ABOU · 10-19-2003, 01:15 PM

sorry ripper there was a problem with the link

well can yuo tell me what the actual clock speed of both is ??

i see that it would save me alot of money going for a cheaper chip as i said in other posts i need at least minimum spec for HL2 which is 2ghrtz and direct x 9 512 RAM i think i want more than that if pos u know

Dr. Avery · 10-19-2003, 01:17 PM

yeah - get the 2500 or a 2600, and overclock it.

ABOU · 10-19-2003, 01:22 PM

well i dont mind if its like 10% but any more than that and it needs proper cooling and im not sure how to go about that i thank i will go for either the xp 2800 or the xp 3000 need to get some info on cooling as i cant afford water cooling right now but in the futre maybe not to sure on fans ect

RipperRoo · 10-19-2003, 01:22 PM

o well, if at first you dont Succeed, cheat:

Quote:

AMD Athlon XP Processors Core OPN Model Operating Freq.(MHz) Clock Mult. Nominal Voltage Max Die Temp. FSB Freq.(MHz) L2 Cache
Model 10
"Barton" AXDA3200DKV4E 3200+ 2200MHz 11x 1.65V 85º C 400MHz 512KB
AXDA3000DKV4E 3000+ 2100MHz 10.5x
AXDA3000DKV4D 3000+ 2167MHz 13x 333MHz
AXDA2800DKV4D 2800+ 2083MHz 12.5x
AXDA2600DKV4D 2600+ 1917MHz 11.5x
AXDA2500DKV4D 2500+ 1833MHz 11x
Model 8
"Thoroughbred" AXDA2700DKV3D 2700+ 2167MHz 13x 1.65V 85º C 333MHz 256KB
AXDA2600DKV3D 2600+ 2083MHz 12.5x
AXDA2600DKV3C 2600+ 2133MHz 16x 266MHz
AXDA2400DKV3C 2400+ 2000MHz 15x
AXDA2400DUV3C 2400+ 2000MHz 15x 1.60V
AXDA2200DUV3C 2200+ 1800MHz 13.5x
AXDA2200DKV3C 2200+ 1800MHz 13.5x 1.65V
AXDA2100DUT3C 2100+ 1733MHz 13x 1.60V 90º C
AXDA2000DUT3C 2000+ 1667MHz 12.5x
AXDA2000DKT3C 2000+ 1667MHz 12.5x 1.65V
AXDA1900DLT3C 1900+ 1600MHz 12x 1.50V
AXDA1800DUT3C 1800+ 1533MHz 11.5x 1.60V
AXDA1800DLT3C 1800+ 1533MHz 11.5x 1.50V
AXDA1700DUT3C 1700+ 1467MHz 11x 1.60V
AXDA1700DLT3C 1700+ 1467MHz 11x 1.50V
AXDA1600DUT3C 1600+ 1400MHz 10.5x 1.60V
Model 6
"Palomino" AX2100DMT3C 2100+ 1733MHz 13x 1.75V 90º C 266MHz 256KB
AX2000DMT3C 2000+ 1667MHz 12.5x
AX1900DMT3C 1900+ 1600MHz 12x
AX1800DMT3C 1800+ 1533MHz 11.5x
AX1700DMT3C 1700+ 1467MHz 11x
AX1600DMT3C 1600+ 1400MHz 10.5x
AX1500DMT3C 1500+ 1333MHz 10x

How to Read an OPN
OPN Example of an AMD Athlon XP Processor AXDA 3200 D K V 4 E
AXDA Architecture Segment:
AXDA = AMD Athlon™ XP Processor ("Barton"/"Thoroughbred")
AX = AMD Athlon™ XP Processor ("Palomino")
3200 Model Number: 1500+ to 3200+ and above
D Package Type: D = OPGA
K Operating Voltage:
L = 1.50V
U = 1.60V
K = 1.65V
M = 1.75V
V Die Temperature:
T = 90 Degrees Celsius
V = 85 Degrees Celsius
4 Size of L2 Cache:
3 = 256KB
4 = 512KB
E Max FSB:
C = 266MHz
D = 333MHz
E = 400MHz

ABOU · 10-19-2003, 01:28 PM

ok whoooosh

sorry ripper but that means nothing to me lol i know a bit about hardare but thats over my head m8 lol just in basic enough terms does fine lol

ok the 3000+ and the 2800+ both have the same 512kb l2 cache

both barton core

but the clock speed is slightly different by how much ??

as far as over clocking goes how far can you push it and cooling wise what would i need ??

ABOU · 10-19-2003, 01:30 PM

ooops all that text sorrta got confused think i got it now lol

ABOU · 10-19-2003, 01:36 PM

Quote:

AXDA3000DKV4E 3000+ 2100MHz 10.5x

AXDA3000DKV4D 3000+ 2167MHz 13x 333MHz

AXDA2800DKV4D 2800+ 2083MHz 12.5x

AXDA2500DKV4D 2500+ 1833MHz 11x
Model 8

2167 and 2083 lik extra 100mhrtz u got a point not worth it after all cheers i think il go for the 2800 then

still wonderin about the overclockablity ?? doc shed sum light ?? wots ur 2500 runnin at ??

RipperRoo · 10-19-2003, 01:38 PM

lets just highlight the two your askin about, maybe easyer

AXDA3000DKV4D 3000+ 2167MHz 13x 333MHz
AXDA2800DKV4D 2800+ 2083MHz 12.5x

as you can see a difference of about 84mhz between the two, not worth £100, as for cooling, the best advice i can give is to have a look thru our Affiliate News section on the home page, there you will find reviews of all the latest heatsinks and water cooling kits, heres a few to start you off

http://www.pctechtalk.com/view.php?id=1603
http://www.pctechtalk.com/view.php?id=1601
http://www.pctechtalk.com/view.php?id=1578
http://www.pctechtalk.com/view.php?id=1556

ABOU · 10-19-2003, 01:40 PM

cheers ripper u been a big help

10-19-2003, 12:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
ABOU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NORTHERN IRELAND Posts: 460	Cpu ???? ok i got a slight problem again i had it all planned out twice xp 2500 but i need a betta one so i think mmm 3000+ but i have read reviews saying it aint worth the money and your betta gettin a 2800+ (both barton) im not sure on weather to over clock so i thought 3000+ but im not sure now if it is worth an extra £100 but of advice of a tech expert

10-19-2003, 01:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
RipperRoo AdMiN oF RoCk! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: uk Posts: 2,080	to be honest, no its not worth the extra cash for the 3000, Here is a page that will come in handy to help you make your mind up. you will see that the 333mhz fsb barton 3000xp run at less than an additiional 100mhz clock speed, and its been years since you payed £1 per mhz. __________________ PcTechtalk.com Admin A7V8X xp2600 Barton SLK 97U, GeForce FX 5700, 1GB 2700DDR Ram Sony DVD -R/+R/RW, SB Live 5.1 Digital, 1 x 30gb 3 x 200GB 2x120GB 1 x 250GB HDD'S, 19" TFT Epson R265 HP NX6125 Laptop 1gb memory http://www.minotaur-computers.co.uk/

10-19-2003, 01:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dr. Avery Tech Weasel Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Fortress of Awesometude Posts: 1,145	yeah - get the 2500 or a 2600, and overclock it. __________________ 01010001 01110101 01100001 01100011 01101011: Fowl Syntax.

10-19-2003, 01:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
RipperRoo AdMiN oF RoCk! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: uk Posts: 2,080	lets just highlight the two your askin about, maybe easyer AXDA3000DKV4D 3000+ 2167MHz 13x 333MHz AXDA2800DKV4D 2800+ 2083MHz 12.5x as you can see a difference of about 84mhz between the two, not worth £100, as for cooling, the best advice i can give is to have a look thru our Affiliate News section on the home page, there you will find reviews of all the latest heatsinks and water cooling kits, heres a few to start you off http://www.pctechtalk.com/view.php?id=1603 http://www.pctechtalk.com/view.php?id=1601 http://www.pctechtalk.com/view.php?id=1578 http://www.pctechtalk.com/view.php?id=1556 __________________ PcTechtalk.com Admin A7V8X xp2600 Barton SLK 97U, GeForce FX 5700, 1GB 2700DDR Ram Sony DVD -R/+R/RW, SB Live 5.1 Digital, 1 x 30gb 3 x 200GB 2x120GB 1 x 250GB HDD'S, 19" TFT Epson R265 HP NX6125 Laptop 1gb memory http://www.minotaur-computers.co.uk/

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10-19-2003, 01:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
ABOU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NORTHERN IRELAND Posts: 460	sorry ripper there was a problem with the link well can yuo tell me what the actual clock speed of both is ?? i see that it would save me alot of money going for a cheaper chip as i said in other posts i need at least minimum spec for HL2 which is 2ghrtz and direct x 9 512 RAM i think i want more than that if pos u know

10-19-2003, 01:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
ABOU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NORTHERN IRELAND Posts: 460	well i dont mind if its like 10% but any more than that and it needs proper cooling and im not sure how to go about that i thank i will go for either the xp 2800 or the xp 3000 need to get some info on cooling as i cant afford water cooling right now but in the futre maybe not to sure on fans ect

10-19-2003, 01:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
ABOU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NORTHERN IRELAND Posts: 460	ok whoooosh sorry ripper but that means nothing to me lol i know a bit about hardare but thats over my head m8 lol just in basic enough terms does fine lol ok the 3000+ and the 2800+ both have the same 512kb l2 cache both barton core but the clock speed is slightly different by how much ?? as far as over clocking goes how far can you push it and cooling wise what would i need ??

10-19-2003, 01:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
ABOU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NORTHERN IRELAND Posts: 460	ooops all that text sorrta got confused think i got it now lol

10-19-2003, 01:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
ABOU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NORTHERN IRELAND Posts: 460	cheers ripper u been a big help