Who's going to 64bits first? - Page 3

Polariz · 05-10-2005, 09:37 AM

I just couldn't bring myself to buy a PressHot Pentium4 CPU (Even though HT would have been really nice), especially considering I wanted a quiet Shuttle. The X2 potential upgrade was the winner though, i'd suggest anyone looking to upgrade in the future goes for Socket 939 AMD - highly recommended just because of the future support of fast dual cores!

igalan · 05-10-2005, 10:50 AM

Have you seen the Thermal Design Power of Pentium D? 130W! Most AMD64 X2 will fit in a 95W TDP while the most high end will need 115W (most modern 939 boards will be enough). A Pentium D system will need over 200W idle (not counting VGA), while AMD64 can do with less than 125W (without using Cool & Quiet)! Read here

**greffov** · 05-10-2005, 12:51 PM

I'm going 64-bits: on a G5.

Polariz · 05-11-2005, 03:55 AM

I remember reading that the 3.8GHz Pentium4 got so hot at stock levels that it throttled itself down in speed constantly and ended up being, on average, slower than the 3.6GHz model chip. That's about when I decided enough was enough hehe. Luckily enough the Athlons have this strained silicon which so far, has made a great improvement to temperatures. My 3500+ runs on average at around 35C, and there's only one fan in the entire Shuttle PC! Cool n Quiet - does exactly what it says on the tin...

igalan · 05-11-2005, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greffov

I'm going 64-bits: on a G5.

Mac OSX is already a 64 bit OS?

**greffov** · 05-11-2005, 10:51 AM

Tiger is, yes.

Drakin316 · 07-25-2005, 08:11 AM

Ok.... here's the deal

I built a Asus P5ND2-E SLI, 3GHz, 1gb Corsair 5400 (667MHz), 2 FX6600GT's video cards these only have 128 mb of ram on them.

I cannot run 64bit XP on the machine yet.... the motherboard and video driver cd's won't run. I assume that in the future, it will run.

I benched the system.... and DAMN

My system 3.2GHz prescott, 1gb Corsair PC4000, 10,000 RPM Raptors Nforce 4200 video card 256 mb ram.
3D Mark 2003 - 6616
3D Mark 2005 - 1303
----------------------------------------

The new SLI
3D Mark 2003 - 13588
3D Mark 2005 - 5651

The video cards were $175 each, the mobo was $200, and the 3GHz 830 cpu was $330 and the 1gb of Corsair was $157, the better ram is 800MHz and was about $50-75 more, i think.

If all you are doing is upgrading your current computer it is not that bad of an upgrade. If you are starting from scratch building this computer it will cost you about $1500. I was building this for a guy that wanted top of the line computer. It runs at 104 degrees which is not to bad. I would love to put water on this thing and see what I could clock it to, but this is not my rig so I could not do this. I was not able to get any games on it to see if there was a differance either. That is one thing I really did want to do also. I could not play a lot with this he wanted it as soon as possible. I plan on upgrading mine before to long to this. I was really impressed with the way this thing ran.

igalan · 07-25-2005, 09:16 AM

That's an incredible machine

. If only these Prescotts were more power efficient... My AMD64 runs at 35ºC (95ºF) idle, 42º (107.6ºF) max load (with the boxed cooler). It's runs cooler than my HTPC with an AMD XP2500+

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05-10-2005, 09:37 AM	#31 (permalink)
Polariz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 79	I just couldn't bring myself to buy a PressHot Pentium4 CPU (Even though HT would have been really nice), especially considering I wanted a quiet Shuttle. The X2 potential upgrade was the winner though, i'd suggest anyone looking to upgrade in the future goes for Socket 939 AMD - highly recommended just because of the future support of fast dual cores! __________________ AMD Athlon64 3500+ CPU, Socket 939/Newcastle/CBAXC Week 3604 @ 2423MHz Shuttle SN95G v1.3 /nForce3 2x 512mb TwinMOS PC3200 128bit Geforce 6800 128mb AGP8x 240GB Hard Disks Sony DVDRW DL

05-10-2005, 10:50 AM	#32 (permalink)
igalan PCTT Articles Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Barcelona, SPAIN Posts: 1,018	Have you seen the Thermal Design Power of Pentium D? 130W! Most AMD64 X2 will fit in a 95W TDP while the most high end will need 115W (most modern 939 boards will be enough). A Pentium D system will need over 200W idle (not counting VGA), while AMD64 can do with less than 125W (without using Cool & Quiet)! Read here __________________ AMD64 X2 3800+, Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, 2 GB RAM, GeForce 6600GT, Windows XP Home SP2

05-10-2005, 12:51 PM	#33 (permalink)
greffov Da House Nerd Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: One CPU Lane Posts: 3,512	I'm going 64-bits: on a G5. __________________ Linux virusscanner detected a virus: Windows 95 ... delete [Y/n] y ~ ~ :wq

05-11-2005, 03:55 AM	#34 (permalink)
Polariz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 79	I remember reading that the 3.8GHz Pentium4 got so hot at stock levels that it throttled itself down in speed constantly and ended up being, on average, slower than the 3.6GHz model chip. That's about when I decided enough was enough hehe. Luckily enough the Athlons have this strained silicon which so far, has made a great improvement to temperatures. My 3500+ runs on average at around 35C, and there's only one fan in the entire Shuttle PC! Cool n Quiet - does exactly what it says on the tin... __________________ AMD Athlon64 3500+ CPU, Socket 939/Newcastle/CBAXC Week 3604 @ 2423MHz Shuttle SN95G v1.3 /nForce3 2x 512mb TwinMOS PC3200 128bit Geforce 6800 128mb AGP8x 240GB Hard Disks Sony DVDRW DL

05-11-2005, 10:51 AM	#36 (permalink)
greffov Da House Nerd Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: One CPU Lane Posts: 3,512	Tiger is, yes. __________________ Linux virusscanner detected a virus: Windows 95 ... delete [Y/n] y ~ ~ :wq

07-25-2005, 08:11 AM	#37 (permalink)
Drakin316 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: louisiana Posts: 185	new SLI computer Ok.... here's the deal I built a Asus P5ND2-E SLI, 3GHz, 1gb Corsair 5400 (667MHz), 2 FX6600GT's video cards these only have 128 mb of ram on them. I cannot run 64bit XP on the machine yet.... the motherboard and video driver cd's won't run. I assume that in the future, it will run. I benched the system.... and DAMN My system 3.2GHz prescott, 1gb Corsair PC4000, 10,000 RPM Raptors Nforce 4200 video card 256 mb ram. 3D Mark 2003 - 6616 3D Mark 2005 - 1303 ---------------------------------------- The new SLI 3D Mark 2003 - 13588 3D Mark 2005 - 5651 The video cards were $175 each, the mobo was $200, and the 3GHz 830 cpu was $330 and the 1gb of Corsair was $157, the better ram is 800MHz and was about $50-75 more, i think. If all you are doing is upgrading your current computer it is not that bad of an upgrade. If you are starting from scratch building this computer it will cost you about $1500. I was building this for a guy that wanted top of the line computer. It runs at 104 degrees which is not to bad. I would love to put water on this thing and see what I could clock it to, but this is not my rig so I could not do this. I was not able to get any games on it to see if there was a differance either. That is one thing I really did want to do also. I could not play a lot with this he wanted it as soon as possible. I plan on upgrading mine before to long to this. I was really impressed with the way this thing ran.

07-25-2005, 09:16 AM	#38 (permalink)
igalan PCTT Articles Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Barcelona, SPAIN Posts: 1,018	That's an incredible machine . If only these Prescotts were more power efficient... My AMD64 runs at 35ºC (95ºF) idle, 42º (107.6ºF) max load (with the boxed cooler). It's runs cooler than my HTPC with an AMD XP2500+ . __________________ AMD64 X2 3800+, Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, 2 GB RAM, GeForce 6600GT, Windows XP Home SP2

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